{"id":107,"date":"2008-06-19T07:27:28","date_gmt":"2008-06-19T12:27:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/?p=107"},"modified":"2009-05-08T13:47:50","modified_gmt":"2009-05-08T17:47:50","slug":"on-why-gravity-is-the-greatest-force-in-the-universe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/2008\/06\/19\/on-why-gravity-is-the-greatest-force-in-the-universe\/","title":{"rendered":"On Why Gravity is the Greatest Force in The Universe"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #0000ff; font-style: italic;\">The will of God prevails.\u00a0 &#8211; Abraham Lincoln<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Gravity rules all our lives.\u00a0 Everything we are eventually comes from gravity, and its by products: Suns, moons, magnetic fields, spins, rotations, force.<\/p>\n<p>By definition, if an object has mass, it has a gravity, (even if the gravity is negligible compared to something else. btw never use light as a example, it&#8217;s like using 0,1,2 in math or the behavior of water. They don&#8217;t obey certain rules. ).\u00a0 You cannot have gravity without mass, something has to exist\u00a0 and that something has be exerted upon. So i can take a 10 lb ball and spin it really fast, so it has 20 lbs of pressure on it (let&#8217;s just ignore the hardcore math for a bit), But it only <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">feels\u00a0<\/span>like it has 20lb of pressure.\u00a0The balls\u00a0mass has not increased, nor the gravity it&#8217;s producing. The force\u00a0it exerts on things near it&#8217;s surface\u00a0changed.\u00a0 Its own mass has not changed, nor its own gravitational field.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->Huh you say? Ok, I way 60 lb on earth and 10 lb on the moon (yes,\u00a0i know it&#8217;s 1\/6th ).\u00a0 But that&#8217;s because of how much force each body exerts on me.\u00a0 The Gravity I exert on the moon or the earth has not changed, (my mass has not changed) thou my own &#8220;gravity&#8221; is\u00a0negligible when compared to what they (earth and Moon) are exerting on me.<\/p>\n<p>The Universe also has mass, (ergo a gravitational constant). It is collectively exerting a force on us all. But it&#8217;s so vast and spread out, its\u00a0gravity is\u00a0&#8220;negligible&#8221; when i&#8217;m standing next to a planet. or a sun.<\/p>\n<p>Suffice it to say, other universes are also negligible at the moment, they are too far away, and we are falling towards something with far more mass than us all.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">Universe is expanding<\/span><br \/>\nThe universe is expanding.. , faster and faster. This seemed to make physicist and astronomers cringe, yet The theory of gravity is that you are &#8220;falling towards a mass&#8221; and smaller objects generally fall towards bigger objects (cause the smaller cannot produce enough force to overcome inertia)\u00a0 and such falling means you fall faster and faster till you get to the center of that mass or pass thou it, and are slowed down on the other side (assuming you meet no resistance)\/\u00a0 If the universe is expanding, then we are falling to something&#8230;., a center of Universes. If however, that center is permeable enough to pass thou, then we&#8217;d just come out the other side eventually.. osculating back and forth.<\/p>\n<p>Ever since the big bang, we&#8217;ve had evidence that gravity is both general and local. All that we are, sprang from not the bang itself (directly) but its products.\u00a0 The bang produced suns, which eventually made the other elements of the universe when they burned and exploded into nebulae and star clouds.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Thou suns explode, there is evidence that their explosive material from the explosion gets dense again, (their gravity&#8217;s pulling them together) and\u00a0 create smaller solar systems.\u00a0 So there is &#8220;local&#8221; conversion into large\u00a0mass bodies (suns, planets, moons); \u00a0even while the universe is expanding.<\/p>\n<p>In this way, mass next to each other tends to move towards other mass close to itself. while the force of gravity is constant in the universe, a closer body or source can shift the inertia or direction of a closer body and that&#8217;s how solar systems form.<\/p>\n<p>Since the entire universe is moving.. somewhere, One would suspect then that our universe may be falling towards another massive universe, OR, something of such large gravitational pull, it can exert a continuous and steadily increasing force on our entire universe, which is why the universe seems to be accelerating.<\/p>\n<p>[btw, another &#8220;dimension&#8221; is just another universe.\u00a0 And In our Universe, space is a void. (definition: A void is where -except for clusters\u00a0 of objects\u00a0 (galaxies, planets, nebula, etc)\u00a0 particles are so far apart, 1 molecule is light years away from another).\u00a0 Space could be a Liquid of some sort, or more densely packed gas, or in another, just a solid. ]<\/p>\n<p>Falling you say? think about being weightless on earth. You can easily experience this on planes and roller coasters.\u00a0\u00a0 If you are falling towards the earth in an airplane, there is no resistance to you. But you are STILL falling towards the earth. The airframe blocks resistance, yet all things inside the airplane are falling towards the ground &#8220;weightless&#8221;.\u00a0 Space is the same in my estimation, except, the &#8220;dimension bubble.&#8221; is protecting you the same way an airframe would.\u00a0 In the end, we are all falling towards.. something.<\/p>\n<p>Why can&#8217;t you fold space? Defiantly not using black holes and defiantly not thinking the way we do.<br \/>\nSpace is a physical thing in this universe, even thou it doesn&#8217;t seem like it.\u00a0 The mass of something large, say the sun, makes a gravitational dip in space\/ time itself.\u00a0\u00a0 However, we precieve this dip on a 2 d plane.\u00a0 Things fall towards the dip, but cannot overcome the lip, ergo, orbit. (also known as moving out with enough momentum to avoid falling in)<\/p>\n<p>Folding space would require massive amounts of gravity, the gravity you get from black holes isn&#8217;t even enough.\u00a0 These spinning things have a center mass. Just because you can&#8217;t see it, doesn&#8217;t mean it doesn&#8217;t have a mass that you can crash into.\u00a0 The core of what&#8217;s left is too dense for anything to escape and without light you can&#8217;t see&#8230; but other particles can escape (see Quarks)<\/p>\n<p>because In this universe, gravity cannot yet exist without mass, it stand s to reson that something massive (thou you can&#8217;t see it) is at the center of a black hole.\u00a0 It doens&#8217;t lead to a new universe,&#8230; but like a sun, you crash into it a dark core, ,,,get converted into energy and eventually shot out as what black holes produce&#8230; , gama rays. (if a sun, you&#8217;d get converted to heat after being melted. Same theory)<\/p>\n<p>To fold space, you&#8217;d have to (within a short confined area) create so much gravity the gravity well (that bow is space) would fall to the other side of the universe (destination point).\u00a0\u00a0 You would have to create gravity greater than a black hole, yet BIG enough the &#8220;worm hole&#8221; isn&#8217;t a pin prick in size.\u00a0 Good luck with that.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: bold;\">2 weeks to anywhere.\u00a0 Warp Speed<\/span>.<br \/>\nSpace has mass. If you can bow it,\u00a0 it is physical manipulatiple.\u00a0 if you were to create gravity (you spin something (a section of space) really fast) enough to make a big enough worm hole (look at a hurricane, the eye is calm). Furthermore, it doesn&#8217;t seem to affect other parts of space. IF i pull one part, i don&#8217;t do anything to another part. Ergo , I can warp one part of space, tunneling thru to another part of space by spinning it viciously.\u00a0 However, this creates a fixed time of journey.\u00a0\u00a0 Turns out (if gravity is involved and without external forces,depending on angle and place of exit, the time to travel thru a sphere based on constant force exerted from it&#8217;s center is fixed.\u00a0 Since we have a MASSIVE black hole at the center of our galaxy and one assumes universe (somewhere) yup, travel time would be fixed unless we added say, &#8220;impulse&#8221; drives.<\/p>\n<p>This is &#8220;warp&#8221; speed, hyperspace, subspace travel, etc. Effectively, you create a worm hole (don&#8217;t touch the spinning sides) which creates a space of calm in the center and with gravity help and some engines, you drive to destination. Crap, i think i just worked out the theory for Stargate.<\/p>\n<p>One other way to do this, is to have a ship of Mass A, then increase that mass (or relative mass compared to the space around it) and that would create a hole, which then would push thru &#8230; maybe.\u00a0 Don&#8217;t ask me if the people inside live.\u00a0 The only way i can think of doing that&#8230; or magnetic fields.<\/p>\n<p style=\"font-weight: bold;\">But, un, what IS space?<\/p>\n<p>Is space like water? or Syrian wrap? or warm glass? Both i can lay something in , and push against.\u00a0 Eventually, water displaces enough so that I can enter is and then the thin membrane closes behind me.. OR, is it like syran rap, where i push and i push and then!..pop, i&#8217;m in, yet, i&#8217;m not so sure i didn&#8217;t just leave a hole.\u00a0 How do you tell what&#8217;s behind something you can&#8217;t get behind? A sealed jar does not tell me if it&#8217;s holding jam, jelly, or air (thou, we do have ways of sending waves thru things to tell us what&#8217;s inside is made of, Thats how we know the core of earth is iron,) thou i think you have to be on the other side to receive the information *doah*<\/p>\n<p>This is where magnetic fields come in.. and again the spinning thing comes up. There is evidence that Magnetic fields affect the atoms (protons and electrons) of amass, but not really the physical mass itself. In short, there is as of yet no correlation that a magnetic field lowers or improves on the gravitational force that two objects exert on each other.\u00a0 Cause i&#8217;m thinking, it would be far easier to spin something (called a dynamo) attached to a ship until you can pierce bubble&#8230; or use that to spin space. Or perhaps dark matter. But alas, space is already spinning, because every galaxy is spinning, and planet star.\u00a0 There is no reason to think that the universe isn&#8217;t spinning, which would mean that&#8217;s one massive magnetic field out there. Or Dark matter field<\/p>\n<p>I mean, space is a thing. Suppose it was the dark matter we&#8217;re looking for? If this dark matter was &#8220;porous&#8221; li like water, or gas so you can move thru it? Why no resistance? or perhaps it&#8217;s not a resistance we can as yet measure?\u00a0 After all, I can move thru light without resistance.\u00a0 A force is exerted by light, and heat is measured.\u00a0 Maybe we need to measure some other output&#8230; like, the background radiation of the universe? or consider it part of dark matter. Light (and it&#8217;s spectrum) is both a particles and a wave, after all. and we know magnetic fields can bend particles as well as gravity can bend waves. Maybe that&#8217;s really what&#8217;s causing the bow in space? Gravity and Magnetism working together.<\/p>\n<p>Update: as in i&#8217;m posting more.<\/p>\n<p>Now, the falling towards something isn&#8217;t the only theory of universe expansion, infact it&#8217;s not not really my theory it&#8217;s just a theory. The one i believe in is more like this.\u00a0 We are still exploding. Take a bomb.\u00a0 When it explodes it&#8217;s piece accelerate outwards.\u00a0 In theory they would continue until something makes them slow, then stop, and for that we have friction (wind resistance) and gravity to help that process along.\u00a0 What about when a Sun explodes? Well, we do have resistance, dark matter resistance, and of course, the omnipresent universal gravity of the cosmos.\u00a0 So why is the universe expanding? If one assumes nothing exist between universes then there is no resistance to stopping the expanding (thou the universe own mass do provide should eventually provide breaking force) but if there is &#8230;something between universes, well, we&#8217;re still in the begining part of the explosion.\u00a0 I think it&#8217;s arrogant to think that anything that can create the universe has decided to work on out time scale of how long a explosion should take.<\/p>\n<p>But that&#8217;s for another day.. back to politics.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The will of God prevails.\u00a0 &#8211; Abraham Lincoln Gravity rules all our lives.\u00a0 Everything we are eventually comes from gravity, and its by products: Suns, moons, magnetic fields, spins, rotations, force. By definition, if an object has mass, it has a gravity, (even if the gravity is negligible compared to something else. btw never use [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[157,132,4],"tags":[326,324,327,330,325,329,328],"class_list":["post-107","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-executive-papers","category-guest-post","category-truthiness","tag-blackholes","tag-gravity","tag-magnetic-fields","tag-mass","tag-space","tag-sun","tag-universe"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/107","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=107"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/107\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=107"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=107"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thestormypresent.com\/ocean\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=107"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}