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		<title>Comment on On What is, and What is Not Web 2.0 by Understanding the Current 2.0 Moniker &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2009/05/07/on-what-is-and-what-is-not-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding the Current 2.0 Moniker &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part 2 - What is and what Isn&#8217;t web 2.0 [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On What is Web 2.0 Part 1 by Understanding the Current 2.0 Moniker &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2009/05/07/on-what-is-web-20/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Understanding the Current 2.0 Moniker &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Web 2.0 is itself a meme of the internet age, but it has spawned many others- Government 2.0, and Industry 2.0- which, as defined above, is a transition from the before to something new.  But there is a greater definition which can be surmised and will be defined in this article. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Web 2.0 is itself a meme of the internet age, but it has spawned many others- Government 2.0, and Industry 2.0- which, as defined above, is a transition from the before to something new.  But there is a greater definition which can be surmised and will be defined in this article. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Try, Try and Try Again by On Stuff People Eat &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/05/29/on-try-try-and-try-again/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>On Stuff People Eat &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Blow fish: Who’s the second person to try this? If you don’t know, blow fish has a deadly nerve toxin.  I bet the first person didn’t know that.  Or the second, but really, how hungry do you have to be to keep trying to eat the damn thing?  Sure, put it on your spear and stab someone. However…, eat it? Really?! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Blow fish: Who’s the second person to try this? If you don’t know, blow fish has a deadly nerve toxin.  I bet the first person didn’t know that.  Or the second, but really, how hungry do you have to be to keep trying to eat the damn thing?  Sure, put it on your spear and stab someone. However…, eat it? Really?! [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Giving New Graduates Opportunities by FlannelDoormat</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/10/14/on-giving-new-graduates-opportunities/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>FlannelDoormat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is actually very common practice in the engineering world.  Many engineering schools, particularly those in urban centers like my beloved Marquette in Milwaukee, have long-standing co-operative education programs in place.  

Our program was set up to change a 4-year college experience into a 5-year experience, by alternating school and work terms begining in a student&#039;s junior year.  This gave students an opportunity to have real full-time work experience for a minimum of 3 semesters (possibly 4, depending on the starting term).  

Applying for these co-op jobs was much like applying for a &quot;real&quot; job after graduation, there were resume forms to fill out, inquirey letters to send, and on-campus live interviews to further convince your future employer.  The program has a long history, and a lot of employers fish in this new talent pool on a regular basis, all positions were paid, and many students were offered full-time employment following a sucessful co-op.

The students benefit by obtaining real work experience, in my case it was surveying and construction inspection, and by applying lessons learned to their school work during the classroom semesters.  The employers benefit by hiring these (comparatively) cheap workers that are not only computer savvy and quick to learn, but that may prove to be worthwhile investments in future permanent employment.  If for some reason the employers think they&#039;ve made a bad choice, the risk of keeping someone for a year&#039;s worth of work is minimal, there are no obligations to extend permanent job offers at the conclusion of the final co-op term.  The schools benefit from organizing the co-op placement because such a healthy program actually attracts students.

In my opinion there are few, if any, downfalls to the system.  It&#039;s true that some people don&#039;t like their co-op jobs, but I hardly think that&#039;s different than permanent employment in general.  And yes, it took me an extra year to graduate, and the tuition the last year was higher than the others.  But I didn&#039;t have to pay tuition the terms I worked, and I had to do a little coordination to ensure my scholarship moneys would apply correctly to my school terms.  I have never regretted that choice; the investement in optimizing my employment candidacy was well worth the wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is actually very common practice in the engineering world.  Many engineering schools, particularly those in urban centers like my beloved Marquette in Milwaukee, have long-standing co-operative education programs in place.  </p>
<p>Our program was set up to change a 4-year college experience into a 5-year experience, by alternating school and work terms begining in a student&#8217;s junior year.  This gave students an opportunity to have real full-time work experience for a minimum of 3 semesters (possibly 4, depending on the starting term).  </p>
<p>Applying for these co-op jobs was much like applying for a &#8220;real&#8221; job after graduation, there were resume forms to fill out, inquirey letters to send, and on-campus live interviews to further convince your future employer.  The program has a long history, and a lot of employers fish in this new talent pool on a regular basis, all positions were paid, and many students were offered full-time employment following a sucessful co-op.</p>
<p>The students benefit by obtaining real work experience, in my case it was surveying and construction inspection, and by applying lessons learned to their school work during the classroom semesters.  The employers benefit by hiring these (comparatively) cheap workers that are not only computer savvy and quick to learn, but that may prove to be worthwhile investments in future permanent employment.  If for some reason the employers think they&#8217;ve made a bad choice, the risk of keeping someone for a year&#8217;s worth of work is minimal, there are no obligations to extend permanent job offers at the conclusion of the final co-op term.  The schools benefit from organizing the co-op placement because such a healthy program actually attracts students.</p>
<p>In my opinion there are few, if any, downfalls to the system.  It&#8217;s true that some people don&#8217;t like their co-op jobs, but I hardly think that&#8217;s different than permanent employment in general.  And yes, it took me an extra year to graduate, and the tuition the last year was higher than the others.  But I didn&#8217;t have to pay tuition the terms I worked, and I had to do a little coordination to ensure my scholarship moneys would apply correctly to my school terms.  I have never regretted that choice; the investement in optimizing my employment candidacy was well worth the wait.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On The Money Multiplier, Direct Deposit, Debt and Capitalism by The Will of the Voter and Credit Crisis &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Will of the Voter and Credit Crisis &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On Why Electing Judges is Just OddIs the Market working? Yes, Unfortunately. &#124; Oceans of Thought on On The Money Multiplier, Direct Deposit, Debt and CapitalismIs the Market working? Yes, Unfortunately. &#124; Oceans of Thought on On Solving the Credit CrunchOn [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On Why Electing Judges is Just Odd by The Will of the Voter and Credit Crisis &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/06/13/on-why-electing-judges-is-just-odd/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>The Will of the Voter and Credit Crisis &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will of the Voter, yet our founding father didn&#8217;t trust the average voter.  They feared the Tyranny of the Majority.  This is one of the why we have an electoral college, so the majority of the large states [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will of the Voter, yet our founding father didn&#8217;t trust the average voter.  They feared the Tyranny of the Majority.  This is one of the why we have an electoral college, so the majority of the large states [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on On The Money Multiplier, Direct Deposit, Debt and Capitalism by Is the Market working? Yes, Unfortunately. &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>Is the Market working? Yes, Unfortunately. &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I pointed out, Money is a pyrmaid scheme that works only as long as /everyone/ does not want  their money back. Right now!  Credit inflates [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On Solving the Credit Crunch by Is the Market working? Yes, Unfortunately. &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
		<link>http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/06/22/on-solving-the-credit-crunch/comment-page-1/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>Is the Market working? Yes, Unfortunately. &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] melt down. Yesterday, The house rejected the &#8220;plan.&#8221; bail our or resuce as you decide. Credit markets are freezing up and locking people and companies into being unable to pay their [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] melt down. Yesterday, The house rejected the &#8220;plan.&#8221; bail our or resuce as you decide. Credit markets are freezing up and locking people and companies into being unable to pay their [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on On America Inc., and Your Money by On Failing Large Companies and True Risk &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Failing Large Companies and True Risk &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#124; Oceans of Thought on On Race Relations, and the URLFlannelDoormat on On being too busy for LunchOn America Inc., and Your Money &#124; Oceans of Thought on On The Money Multiplier, Direct Deposit, Debt and [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on On the Purpose of Time, minus Light by On Living in the Past, Metaphysically Speaking. &#124; Oceans of Thought</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Living in the Past, Metaphysically Speaking. &#124; Oceans of Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 22:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On the Purpose of Time minus Light &#124; Oceans of Thought on On Why Gravity is the Greatest Force in The UniverseOn Standup Comics and Race &#124; Oceans of [...]</description>
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