Comments on: On the Loss of Being Reasonable http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/ Bursts of Clarity, Illuminated. Thu, 07 May 2009 15:48:24 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: On Solving the Credit Crunch | Oceans of Thought http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/comment-page-1/#comment-99 On Solving the Credit Crunch | Oceans of Thought Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:31:05 +0000 http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/#comment-99 [...] it, it will not be spent.  It will be saved.  There are allot of reasons but let’s just be reasonable here.  If you are in debt, if there are collectors at the door, or you may be faced with not knowing if [...] [...] it, it will not be spent.  It will be saved.  There are allot of reasons but let’s just be reasonable here.  If you are in debt, if there are collectors at the door, or you may be faced with not knowing if [...]

]]> By: On Why Electing Judges is Just Odd | Oceans of Thought http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/comment-page-1/#comment-87 On Why Electing Judges is Just Odd | Oceans of Thought Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:24:05 +0000 http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/#comment-87 [...] not forget how unpopular those decisions are, or some are today. I site my own dislike of the eminent domain ruling as example. But even so, I believe that the judges involved arrived at their decision by the [...] [...] not forget how unpopular those decisions are, or some are today. I site my own dislike of the eminent domain ruling as example. But even so, I believe that the judges involved arrived at their decision by the [...]

]]> By: OceansOfThought http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/comment-page-1/#comment-68 OceansOfThought Fri, 25 Apr 2008 18:00:10 +0000 http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/#comment-68 Let me just be clear about my post because there were questions about it. All my examples are about where the train has seriously fallen off the rails. In general I am against the taking of PRIVATE property, for PRIVATE commercial use. Take my house and put on it a IRS building. Fine. I grumble and yet, i'll live. Take my house and then sell it to a golf course developer? Highways, airports, and so forth are not specifically commercial property (adopt a highway not withstanding.) Let me just be clear about my post because there were questions about it.

All my examples are about where the train has seriously fallen off the rails. In general I am against the taking of PRIVATE property, for PRIVATE commercial use. Take my house and put on it a IRS building. Fine. I grumble and yet, i’ll live. Take my house and then sell it to a golf course developer? Highways, airports, and so forth are not specifically commercial property (adopt a highway not withstanding.)

]]> By: FlannelDoormat http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/comment-page-1/#comment-67 FlannelDoormat Fri, 25 Apr 2008 15:32:38 +0000 http://thestormypresent.com/ocean/2008/04/25/on-the-loss-of-being-reasonable/#comment-67 The people that complain about eminent domain are the same people that complain about the highway needing to be expanded after they moved to the “country” with twenty thousand of their closest friends, or that complain about the noise when they buy a house near the airport. A responsible urban community maintains a regional planning commission of some sort, and the needs of the many must be considered for responsible growth (vs. urban sprawl). These commissions are in place to determine the balance of residential, commercial, and industrial development (including renovations). When a new subdivision springs up in a previously rural area, the residents are concerned with the local charm of their new neighborhood. It’s not long before they start complaining that their taxes are too high, because residential taxes need to be offset by commercial development taxes. Eminent domain of the 1950’s is what everyone thinks about, the big, bad government runs through the poverty-stricken areas of the city and runs the highway right through an otherwise stable neighborhood; which is true, that’s what happened. It is drastically different now, fair value means fair value. In my state (Wisconsin) the landowners are given a state-appointed appraisal of their property and structure holdings, and if they don’t agree that their interests are being fairly represented, then the property owner may have their property appraised by an appraiser of their own choosing, the costs of which will be paid for by the state. I’ve got opinions on each of your other topics as well, but I don’t have time to answer right now. This highway isn’t going to design itself, and I have to plan which nursing homes, trailer parks, daycares and cemeteries I need to condemn in order to build my detention ponds. By the way, you’re welcome for the miles and miles of safe, clean highways that allow you to live your individualistic single-occupancy vehicled lives, you bunch of ungrateful bastards.* *This is in no way directed at the author of today’s post, but rather is intended for the disgruntled population at large that so readily complains about the bad in government but never recognizes that the bodies are made of many people that actually try to improve the lives of others, not just demons with a fat checkbook. The people that complain about eminent domain are the same people that complain about the highway needing to be expanded after they moved to the “country” with twenty thousand of their closest friends, or that complain about the noise when they buy a house near the airport.

A responsible urban community maintains a regional planning commission of some sort, and the needs of the many must be considered for responsible growth (vs. urban sprawl). These commissions are in place to determine the balance of residential, commercial, and industrial development (including renovations).

When a new subdivision springs up in a previously rural area, the residents are concerned with the local charm of their new neighborhood. It’s not long before they start complaining that their taxes are too high, because residential taxes need to be offset by commercial development taxes.

Eminent domain of the 1950’s is what everyone thinks about, the big, bad government runs through the poverty-stricken areas of the city and runs the highway right through an otherwise stable neighborhood; which is true, that’s what happened. It is drastically different now, fair value means fair value.

In my state (Wisconsin) the landowners are given a state-appointed appraisal of their property and structure holdings, and if they don’t agree that their interests are being fairly represented, then the property owner may have their property appraised by an appraiser of their own choosing, the costs of which will be paid for by the state.

I’ve got opinions on each of your other topics as well, but I don’t have time to answer right now. This highway isn’t going to design itself, and I have to plan which nursing homes, trailer parks, daycares and cemeteries I need to condemn in order to build my detention ponds. By the way, you’re welcome for the miles and miles of safe, clean highways that allow you to live your individualistic single-occupancy vehicled lives, you bunch of ungrateful bastards.*

*This is in no way directed at the author of today’s post, but rather is intended for the disgruntled population at large that so readily complains about the bad in government but never recognizes that the bodies are made of many people that actually try to improve the lives of others, not just demons with a fat checkbook.

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